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| [Spoiler] Tobi Madara | |
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| Mihawk | Oct 12 2011, 05:26 PM Post #1 |
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Just confirmed in the new chapter today that Tobi is not Madara. I'm going with my original guess of Obito mainly because obito and tobi are opposites in Japanese.
Edited by Mihawk, Oct 12 2011, 06:22 PM.
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| Arkadom | Oct 12 2011, 07:23 PM Post #2 |
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Bargle nawdle zouss
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Agreed, plus, if You add an extra O to Tobi You have Obito. Though, I could easily understand if it was Izuna, Madara's brother. Or possibly another being? |
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| SirParagon | Oct 12 2011, 08:36 PM Post #3 |
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Sparking!
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Did just read, wasn't a bad chapter. *Gasp* A villain characterized as deceitful is being deceitful XP |
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| * Yu Narukami | Oct 12 2011, 10:04 PM Post #4 |
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Izanagi!
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3 guesses 1. Obito 2. Izuna 3. Someone not yet introduced |
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Oct 12 2011, 10:19 PM Post #5 |
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Wow. I can't believe I just read this even though I'm not caught up yet. *facepalm* I'm an idiot. But yeah, I'm actually hoping it's Obito. It would make a great story. |
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| + Byakko | Oct 12 2011, 10:45 PM Post #6 |
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I really hate the idea of it being Obito, tbh. Wasn't Kakashi like, what, 15 at the time of Tobi's attack on Konoha? Obito would've been the same age, and the idea of a 15 year old being able to stand up to Yondaime really, really, really sucks. Considering that, I think, Yondaime could whoop Naruto and Sasuke right now. Though, inevitably, Naruto will surpass him. Obito also lacks motive. Could be Sasuke's Dad. I think it's unlikely, though. He had motive, at least, and it's implied he's a highly accomplished Nin. Death in Naruto is apparently really easy to fake. Itachi did say Fugaku (Sasuke's Dad) was absent during the invasion of Konoha, despite being head of the Police Force. Or could be that they're both Madara, and Kishi has got some Plot no Jutsu up his sleeve |
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| Mihawk | Oct 12 2011, 10:57 PM Post #7 |
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Yup that's why I'm not sure it's him. The motive, the age/height/, and lack of enough recognition for kakashi are all missing. I'm still a fan of it though. It could also be izuna (most likely) sasuke's dad But I'm fairly certain it's someone that Madara knew also. Tobi says that he gave the eyes to nagato a LONG time ago and has been manipulating him. Right when madara is revived, he assumes nagato brought him back. Izuna would fit perfectly in this situation but the play on words is pretty crazy for the Obito theory. -The Japanese opposite word -The ability of Tobi is pretty much a more advanced version of Kakashi's eye which is taken from Obito. Kakashi can warp stuff into other dimensions while Tobi can warp himself into other dimensions so attacks would go through him. -Kakashi's MS has no effect on Tobi -Black zetsu has the ability to go inside earth etc and could have saved obito. Black zetsu later calls tobi a "good boy". OR maybe Kishimoto knew we would do all this and is trolling us :P |
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| + Green | Oct 12 2011, 11:27 PM Post #8 |
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Flashy Thing!
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I think this might end up being true. Tobi's knowlege and abilities are just too great for him not to be someone powerful like Madara. I always said Tobi isn't Madara because of his line "my power, Uchiha Madara's power". So i concluded that he's not Madara but has something that he would consider Madara's power. |
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| Mihawk | Oct 13 2011, 12:00 AM Post #9 |
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o yea forgot about that, was actually my prime suspect but didn't wanna say it :P maybe madara soul split and went into obito's body? who knows lol. can't wait for the result. |
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| + Byakko | Oct 13 2011, 12:41 AM Post #10 |
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I think it has something to do with Izanagi. That was one crazy jutsu, and it's only hardly been touched upon, yet. Tobi can't have Madara's whole soul, otherwise Edo Tensei wouldn't work on him. So either MadaTobi pulled a Voldemort and split his soul OR it's a whole other person pretending to be Madara. I'm more inclined to go with the former, but I think the latter is really interesting. It needs to be a character with an agenda who hates Konaha, have a good knowledge of how Uchiha got where it came to be prior to the massacre, have the means to collect Sharingan, work in the shadows, and be an extremely powerful ninja (We've seen how strong Tobi is, even if he's just a "shell of his former self"). We also know that Tobi is a middle-to-old aged Male - he showed wrinkles on the only parts of his face we've seen. That's about it xD |
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| * Yu Narukami | Oct 13 2011, 11:59 AM Post #11 |
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Izanagi!
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How about Time Travel no Jutsu? |
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| Arkadom | Oct 13 2011, 12:29 PM Post #12 |
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Bargle nawdle zouss
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Im proud of Kishimoto now, he pulled himself out of the rasengan fanclub and started giving us good stuff. Its either Obito, because his body was never found, and both his eyes were missing and he didnt mind eye transferance, so mabye he is used to it? So mabye he got his sharingan back or got a new one elsewhere, and got a rinnegan, too. Plus the name. It could still be Izuna, he could have easily switched his and Madara's roles of how he got his EMS. I mean, if I'd killed my brother and he was being used to blackmail me, I'd be pretty damn scared, 'specially if he remembers it and is angry, and even more since he is Madara Uchiha. Im not sure which, both have very strong reasons for being, but I sorta think toward Izuna here, Obito is possible, but not as much. Copy-Pasted from the Naruto chat, my own post. I agree though, it could easily be a split, but I have a litle more of theory to help Obito's case. What if something has made him age much faster? Mabye a jutsu has drained alot of him and he is just aging very, very fast? Or mabye he is still about 28 or whatever, but his outer body has just been drained and turned old as a consiquence? I could easily see Obito having been warped somehow, or something, and having used something that made him age rapidly. I mean heck, he wears a mask for a reason, doesent he? Mabye its not to hide that he is "Madara". Mabye its to hide something else. Obito was a strong beliver in the Uchiha, the sharingan, its understandable if he would go a bit nuts over the fact he is the last of 2 Uchiha's we know of to survive. I have no hard evidence to either, but I really just cant decide, is it Obito, is it Izuna, is it someone we dont know? Is it not even a person? It could always just be evil energy in human form, Im willing to take that boot up the butt if it means we just get an answer! Lol. |
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| Xenonofied | Oct 13 2011, 12:54 PM Post #13 |
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Also Ao has met Tobi the summit. He then sensed real Madara and didn't recognize him. I don't think he split his body. Maybe his soul was split and put into a Zetsu clone or something. Think about it, Tobi needed Rinne Tensei, Madara expected to be revived with it. Tobi has a Zetsu arm and a half black face (probably nothing). Tobi has something weird going on with one of his sides (he blocked the executioner blade with his arm) Tobi had part of him turning into plants after fighting Minato like a Zetsu clone. Tobi then knows all of the history Madara had so well, also able to be recognized as Tobi by Kisame and Itachi. Zetsu can transform into people to disguise himself, perhaps the Zetsu that makes Tobi is a extra good case of this. Tobi is unfazed by injuries unlike a normal human being. He has a split personality that can be turned on and off ala Tobi - fake Madara. Could explain shell of former self line. I have the feeling Madara created Zetsu to carry out his mission and then revive him later when the plan could be carried out. Could explain why Tobi influenced Nagato to his side, while Madara knew Nagato as a kid. It could be possible that Madara wanted Tobi influence him as an allie since he was a child. Edited by Xenonofied, Oct 15 2011, 11:57 AM.
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| + Byakko | Oct 13 2011, 01:01 PM Post #14 |
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Tobi helped Itachi massacre the Uchiha. Why would he agree to something like that, then go insane over it? I still think it has to do with Izanagi. Izanagi twists time and reality for the user. Tobi stated he used it already and his left eye is never shown. Tobi/Madara says that he used it in his fight with Shodai Hokage to fake his own death. This would mean that two possibilities became one - One where Madara dies, and one where he escapes. Shodai is supposed to be one of the greatest Shinobi who ever existed. Ever. Maybe not Rikkudo Sennin, but he could control the Bijuu. Something tells me he's not going to look at a fake dead body and go "Oh, that's the guy I just had an epic battle with. He's totally dead. I'm not even going to make absolutely sure!" I think Madara used Izanagi to get away. His real body died, but he lived on, albeit greatly weakened (although, still exceptionally powerful) in the body he has now. |
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| SirParagon | Oct 13 2011, 01:46 PM Post #15 |
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It was never really clarified whether Izanagi can split a soul in two, but it seems like a pretty likely contrived explanation. 'Mysterious advanced technique to be fully explained later because we need it for the plot'. Perhaps it will be something new, but I doubt it. |
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